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Jon Reed Interviews Marco ten Vaanholt: Podcast Transcription PDF Print E-mail
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Reed: You mentioned “disruptive innovation” a couple of times, and I don’t want to put you on the spot too much, but the one thing that always trips me up about it is that one of SAP’s big messages about their software in terms of upgrades and such is innovation without disruption. I’ve always wanted to understand how the disruptive innovator fits into the model of innovation without disruption. Is it basically like disruptive innovation within a confined context? Is that the idea?

Ten Vaanholt: Yes. I think--do you know this notion of nondeterministic ability? So, you have the ability to adjust more dynamically to external events which have an effect on your organization. I think, you know, when I talk about disruptive innovation, it can be both inside-out and outside-in. So, in the B2B space, I think that you need to distinguish, as I said before, between commodity processes as well as strategic processes. So one of the things you can do is you can define a new process, and by defining a new process you are disruptive to the market; or, the market is disruptive, and because the market is disruptive, you need to define a new process.

So, I’ll give you a kind of an example, right? And this is just a hypothetical example, but--and this is an example I gave during the TechEd presentation I did. So, Nike is an apparel company. What they’ve done in the past is, predominantly, sold apparel. Now, they came out with their Nike Swatch Watch, which can do GPS tracking. And if you buy the shoes, then you can do GPS tracking; you can identify where you are when you go cross-country. Ok? And at the moment of sale, you now have the capability when you buy the shoe and the watch to also buy a GPS contract.

Now, Nike probably never had something like that because they were just in the apparel business--they sold apparel. They never sold GPS contracts, which is a mobile contract. Now, imagine that they have the capability to reuse what, for instance, OnStar did with Buick in the same type of sense, and then tailor it a little bit more towards their specific industry. And now they have the ability to be the first in the market to sell a GPS watch connected with their shoes, and that becomes a differentiator in the market of apparel. So, this is a way of utilizing solutions as well as processes which existed in another industry but now are disruptive towards the overall apparel industry. That doesn’t necessarily mean that it is disruptive in the negative sense. It is actually disruptive in the positive sense, right?

Reed: Yes, and in your TechEd presentations, I liked how you distinguished between Business Process Experts that were focused on optimization and efficiency, and those that were focused on disruptive innovation. I hear where you’re going with that now, that basically innovation within a certain context is disruptive but not in a way that affects your efficiency. It’s essentially, as you said, a group of people who are looking to build on whatever business model they have, but perhaps by questioning certain assumptions and bringing, in the case of eSOA, perhaps even mashups from different content providers in industries to see what can be created.

Ten Vaanholt: Yes, and you know the same is happening in the mobile space, which is hugely competitive, where change happens every two months, right? How do you keep up in that mobile space and still have an edge? How does Nokia keep doing what they’re doing? How do they sell three billion phones and are the world-wide leader, and, how do they keep up with that incredible speed of change? Or do they create the speed of change?

Reed: Well, we’ve covered a lot of points in this podcast. Are there any topics on becoming a Business Process Expert or taking advantage of the BPX community that we hadn’t covered yet, that you wanted to get across?

Vaanholt: Yes, there is so much, but I think one of the things that I do want to do is invite people--most of your listeners are already familiar with SDN, but I do think it would be good to scope out what’s already in the BPX community and invite them to the BPX community. The first advice I’d tell most people is: We have a really solid getting-started area, which explains a little bit more about what the role means. Again, it’s an evolving role. I get a ton of questions from people about, “How does this relate to me? How can I get certified?” And a lot of the information is already on the community itself.

On top of that, we have tons of collaborative areas, whether it’s in the Wiki or it’s in the forum areas, where people are helping other people to solve business issues of today. You know, one of the things I do want to mention is that a lot of Application Consultants are not aware that we have a whole ERP upgrade forum where people share information about best practices on ERP upgrades. I think the BPX community, as well as the BPX role, is an evolving role, and as we evolve we invite as many people to share and contribute as well as communicate to us what is needed.

That’s another aspect which I really want to make come across--is that we’re a living thing, you know, we’re just building this city, and we need people’s advice on where we need to build next. And that’s definitely an area where I would like to invite people and communicate and collaborate together with our community evangelists and our community mentors to figure out what the next steps are for this BPX community itself.

Reed: Ordinarily, at the end of the podcast, it’s always hard for me, because I feel like we haven’t covered nearly enough, but, in this case, the whole point of the podcast is simply that there’s an opportunity to actually stop consuming the information about this, and actually get on BPX and get involved. So, I guess that’s going to be our closing message, that the seismic plates of SAP skill sets may be shifting, but the opportunity is there, like never before, to actively seek out the skills gaps that you might feel in your own skills set and find a solution for it.

On that note, I would like to wish Marco the best of luck building out the BPX community. And hopefully, we’ll see you online soon.

Ten Vaanholt: Thank you, Jon and Jon.

Reed: I’d like to thank our listeners for joining us today for this podcast interview on becoming a Business Process Expert. This podcast was a joint venture between SearchSAP, and my site, JonERP.com, “Bringing you career answers for SAP professionals.” And with that, I’d like to turn it back to our host, Jon Franke, of SearchSAP.

Franke: Well, thanks a lot, Jon and Marco. That does it for this edition of SearchSAP.com’s podcast series on Business Process Experts, skills and resources. Until next time, I’m Jon Franke. Thanks for joining us.

Editor’s Note: This interview is not a verbatim transcription of the podcast. It was edited for clarity and readability; however, no content from the podcast conversation was removed.

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